This does stray into questions of "What is a person?" that is usually reserved for Cyberpunk fiction, however, which I found surprising to find in a Forgotten Realms story. The memories it absorbed seem, by some freak accident, to have been intact enough that they coalesced into a personality when he was near the influence of the Astral Prism, so that he developed enough free will to want to escape the Elder Brain's influence. He's really just a mind flayer born of a tadpole that devoured that person's brain, however. Not "masquerading", I think he really believes he is that person. Was the illithid just masquerading as the past character based on the memories he absorbed to manipulate others? So in that regard, if you cut off the mind flayer's hand and tried to use that to bring back the humanoid, you'd just end up resurrecting the mind flayer.īut basically once the tadpole is done eating the brain (after about an hour) the person is basically dead and their soul ends up in the afterlife. So you also have to use magic to restore the stolen memories.īut after the tadpole becomes the new brain, it basically converts the body, mutating it into the genderless form of an adult mind flayer. But also the tadpole psychically eats the memories as it eats. I like how Lords of Madness says that the only way to save someone at this point is to cut off their head, then take the body, and restore it from there. The general gist is that the victim just does immediately as their brain is eaten over about an hour. 5e has just really dropped the ball and now they just give vague ideas and leave it for DMs and players to figure out on their own. If you want to go off of what's been done in official books in the past, the Illithiad and Lords of Madness both went into a LOT of details on how the tadpole converts over the body as it consumes the brain and memories, as well as the extreme hoops you have to jump through to restore someone who get's converted.ĭ&D used to be a lot better about giving people lore and ideas to work from. I mean, you can do what you want in your game. I'm also thinking the upcoming Planescape 5e release might shed some light on this □ Did he have a soul after all, that somehow survived the ceremorphosis, or was the illithid just masquerading as the past character based on the memories he absorbed to manipulate others? The Emperor/Balduran seemed to have been very strongly tied to his past life and appears to have retained his character.There have been mentions of mind flayer petitioners in the past lore - would they be the original souls of the humanoid host or something that the mindflayer acquired as part of their illithid lifetime?.What happens with the soul of the host? Does it get "trapped" within the illithid or go to the fugue plane as if the host died as normal?.Since its heavily implied at the end of Baldur's Gate 3 that Withers is Jergal, we can assume that he knows what he's talking about when he outright states mind flayers have no souls.īut in that case a couple of questions pop up: The Dark Maiden beckons: On the drow goddess Eilistraee and her Faith by /u/Irennanģrd edition Interatcive Map - created by /u/Surly_CanaryĪlbum of Forgotten Realms maps - by /u/AKABigBlack r/tabletop - For your general tabletop gaming shenanigans r/Pathfinder_RPG - For everything about the pathfinder RPG r/lfg/ - Looking For Group, find other players, etc r/Fantasy - For talk of other worlds of fantasy r/dndnext - Dedicated to the latest edition of D&D r/DnDBehindTheScreen - The place for a DM's view. r/dnd - For discussion related to Dungeons & Dragons Other subreddits that might be of interest: r/Neverwinter - A place for those interested in the MMORPG set in the city of Neverwinter r/idlechampions - Official sub for the idle-clicker game Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms r/icewinddale - A sub focused on the IWD CPRG series r/Drizzt - A sub for fans of the iconic realms character r/AdventurersLeague - Dedicated to D&D's new organized play set in FR Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden - 15 September 2020Įdverse home of Ed Greenwood, the creator of the Realms Tasha's Cauldron of Everything - 17 November 2020Īt the Spine of the World - 21 October 2020 PLEASE - Do not link to copyright infringing materials, and report any that you find! El: I'm looking at you, Volo! Current Clack Here lies a place for tales, news, resources and lore regarding the Forgotten Realms! (Not administered by or affiliated with Wizards of the Coast, LLC in any way).
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